Navigating the Future: The Neptune App and Its Vision
This episode prominently features a discussion with Ashley Darling, CEO, and Chris Jones, CTO of the Neptune app, an innovative social media platform designed to prioritize creators and their content. The main thrust of the conversation revolves around the app's unique features, such as customizable content feeds and ghost metrics, which allow users to engage with their audience without the pressures of traditional engagement metrics. We delve into the motivations behind the app’s creation, highlighting the need for a more supportive environment for diverse creators, particularly those in marginalized communities. Additionally, the episode explores the challenges and triumphs faced by the Neptune team as they navigate the complexities of launching a new platform in a competitive landscape. The insights shared by our guests not only illuminate their vision for Neptune but also reflect broader themes of creativity, integrity, and community in the digital age.
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Speaker C:Vendors, artists, voiceover artists, including TV and movie actors.
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Speaker A:All right, I look forward to bothering Sam Witwer again and Matthew Water.
Speaker C:I want to see if Ross Marquon travels around with that mallet, that spiky mallet thing that he has for that he, that he had to wear during.
Speaker A:The Walking Dead or he's like a red skull.
Speaker C:Yeah, red skull from In Game.
Speaker C:You know, that's, it's all very exciting.
Speaker C:All right, our guests this week, our CEO Ashley Darling and CTO Chris Jones of the Neptune app.
Speaker C:Welcome.
Speaker C:Ashley and Chris, welcome.
Speaker B:Hi.
Speaker C:Thank you for being here with us.
Speaker C:We're very excited.
Speaker C:I was, I, I took a chance and sent a message to Ashley while she was doing one of her lives.
Speaker C:I think you were putting on makeup, and I was like, there's no, there's no way she's going to see this.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:But she did.
Speaker C:And I, I, I stood out somehow enough to, to be seen.
Speaker C:Because I honestly, I don't know how you put on makeup while you're responding to people on lives because the, the comments that come flying past, like, I did not put us on TikTok tonight because of the comments that come through are so incredibly distracting.
Speaker C:So Ashley and Chris, just to, just to give a little bit of a description, if you don't know, I don't know how, but basically, the Neptune app is an emerging social media platform designed to prioritize and you all correct me if I'm wrong.
Speaker C:Designed to prioritize creators and their content, it aims to offer a community first approach with features like customizable content feeds and ghost metrics, which allow users to focus on their art without the distraction of traditional engagement metrics.
Speaker C:Does that sound right?
Speaker B:Yeah, that sounds right.
Speaker C:Thank you very much, chatgpt.
Speaker C:I pulled all of that from there.
Speaker B:So great.
Speaker B:I feel famous.
Speaker B:Like, ChatGPT knows who we are.
Speaker A:Gemini, you're letting me down.
Speaker C:So, Ash, I want to, I want to start with you.
Speaker C:How did, how did this go from idea to reality?
Speaker C:Like, what was the spark moment that you were like, this is what we have to do?
Speaker B:I mean, it's funny that you bring up watching me do my makeup on a live stream.
Speaker B:That's what I've done for years and years.
Speaker B:I've been a content creator for almost 20 years.
Speaker B:I don't look like it?
Speaker B:Yes, thank you.
Speaker B:But I've been a content creator for a long time, and I was always on the cutting edge of doing as many things as I could on social media, right?
Speaker B:Like I lied about my college education so I could get on Facebook.
Speaker B:I was one of the first users to utilize the live feature.
Speaker B:When it came out on Facebook, I was all over Instagram because I had iOS and I got to download it first.
Speaker B:And so I've always been sort of out there doing content creation.
Speaker B: ite a large following between: Speaker B:And so I was consulting with personalities in and around Hollywood who were looking to develop their personal brands online.
Speaker B:And so when I took that long, extended break from social media and kind of came back to it in a consulting realm, I found a very different landscape from when I left.
Speaker B:And what I was seeing, a lot of chatter going around was that, you know, creators in the bipoc, queer and disabled communities were having their content suppressed.
Speaker B:Their stuff wasn't getting seen as much.
Speaker B:They didn't feel like they had creative freedom to talk about the things that were affecting them.
Speaker B:A lot of people with disabilities actually get their videos taken down when they go to talk about some of the things that they struggle with because these moderation platforms decide that it's upsetting, right?
Speaker B:They.
Speaker B:They kind of err on the side of, oh, people don't want to hear about your struggles, we're going to take that down.
Speaker B:And so that's really incredibly invalidating for so many creat.
Speaker B:And so, as any entrepreneur, you know, I was, there has to be a better way.
Speaker B:So it was either I go to TikTok or Meta, work my way up the ranks, you know, fight from within, bust the glass ceilings, or I could create my own damn thing.
Speaker B:And so I decided to do the latter because I didn't have enough corporate experience to get that high in TikTok and Instagram.
Speaker B:And I was like, you know what?
Speaker B:I'm just going to put this out there.
Speaker B:So I literally had this idea for this social media platform where creators could feel really truly expressed, where their profile was truly an expression of who they are.
Speaker B:And the Ghost metrics was just a way of moving that number that everybody kind of just makes a snap judgment about when they go to someone's profile.
Speaker B:And it's just a psychological thing, like, we're not assholes about it.
Speaker B:Like that's just the way our brain works.
Speaker B:Like, we go to someone's profile and we're like, oh, they have 50,000 followers.
Speaker B:Oh, they must be worth a follow.
Speaker B:And we kind of assign more value to them.
Speaker A:So.
Speaker B:So by taking that metric and moving it further down the page or allowing the creator to remove it completely, there would be a lack of bias there.
Speaker B:And people could go and just be judged based on how they wanted to show up on social media, their content, their profile theme, you know, their profile banner pictures.
Speaker B:And so I had this, like, idea in my head, and I was like, I'm just gonna put this on threads because, you know, what else are you gonna do with a giant idea you have no idea what to do with?
Speaker B:I'm not a tech person.
Speaker B:I'm not a Silicon Valley girl.
Speaker B:Chris had to teach me how to say Silicone Valley properly.
Speaker B:Cause I was saying it sil.
Speaker B:And he was like, no, girl.
Speaker B:Like, you have to say it's silicon.
Speaker B:And I was like, okay.
Speaker B:So now I can say it properly.
Speaker B:Okay, this is how much.
Speaker B:This is how far removed from tech I am.
Speaker B:Silicone, I know.
Speaker B:Silicon, not so much.
Speaker B:So I literally put this out on threads, and I was like, guys, I have this idea for an app.
Speaker B:Do I know any developers?
Speaker B:And I had, you know, the typical creepy old guys reach out to me and be like, yeah, totally.
Speaker B:What do you want to trade for honey?
Speaker B:And I was like, no, no, thank you.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:But then I had Chris, and Chris was like, I'm intrigued.
Speaker B:Do you want to talk about this?
Speaker B:And I was like, here's my idea.
Speaker B:And, like, walls of text, just back and forth, me and Chris, and we were like, this sounds cool.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And we hopped on a zoom call, and that was that.
Speaker B:We were like, this is.
Speaker B:We were so aligned with our vision and what we wanted this to be and why we needed this to exist.
Speaker B:And the rest is, you know, history in the very short term, because, you know, we're only a year out from this.
Speaker B:Like, we started this last May, right?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, wow.
Speaker C:So, well, so, Chris, what is your background?
Speaker C:How was it that when you responded to Ashley and said, yeah, I'm interested in this, like, where were you coming from at that point?
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:So, you know, I've been in tech for about 10 years now.
Speaker D:At 33 years old.
Speaker D:I had worked in retail for 10, 15 years, and I was a punk rocker.
Speaker D:I had been in punk rock bands, I had been on tour, and I was very much still am into the alternative scene and, you know, heavy music.
Speaker D:And you know, for me, joining tech was a culture shock, right?
Speaker D:A big corporate enterprise type situation versus what I had known in my retail life, you know, so I have a background of a non traditional student, you know, being a little bit older than everybody when I, when I first joined my companies, but very quickly working in the trenches and working in tech.
Speaker D:We have these side projects that we work on.
Speaker D:And it became a dream of mine to have an app that I could deploy to the store, something that I could show for my efforts besides my paycheck and a cool side project.
Speaker D:I initially started working on a side project on iOS, building a TikTok clone of all things.
Speaker D:And it got to the point where I thought, this just doesn't really fit, like, who I am as a creative person and an idealistic person.
Speaker D:And if I got to work with somebody who was just the right person who had that vision, I feel like it'd be like a yin yang.
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker D:Our forces could combine.
Speaker D:And just as all this was going through my head, I came across one Ashley Darling on Threads with A plus next door.
Speaker D:I hadn't, I hadn't friended her at all.
Speaker D:And she, she asked, you know, I wish I had a developer.
Speaker D:And of course, we see that a lot as developers.
Speaker D:You just, you get it in your inbox, you see people asking.
Speaker D:And I kind of dug into her background a little bit and I said, okay, this is like a person I could be friends with, like outside of my professional life.
Speaker D:This is somebody I would have been friends with in my teens and twenties for sure.
Speaker D:So I reached out and we assembled the team.
Speaker D:This quote unquote side hustle became a lot more serious from my perspective.
Speaker D:We had to be a delivery team, as boring as that sounds.
Speaker D:We had to have a Sprint, we had to have a JIRA board, we needed a product manager, we needed a UX person, and everything came together.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Well, welcome to our side hustle.
Speaker C:This is because as a profession, Zach is a benefits administrator for Goodyear.
Speaker C:I am a all that's wrong.
Speaker C:Oh, so Zach does stuff in benefits.
Speaker C:I am a quality assurance software engineer for an insurance software company.
Speaker C:So you know that, that, that's what we do to pay the bills.
Speaker C:What is your technical job, Zach?
Speaker C:I'm sorry.
Speaker A:I am a benefits operations specialist for Michelin.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:Did I say Goodyear?
Speaker A:Yeah, you said admin too.
Speaker A:I do not administer benefits.
Speaker A:I am said expert.
Speaker A:I, I am figuring out plans.
Speaker C:You know what also sucks is being the oldest person on a, on a, on a, on a platform, because there's no way anyone here is as.
Speaker C:As old as me.
Speaker C:And, you know, at my age, your memory starts to go, I'm going to see 64 this year.
Speaker A:I'm the nerdiest one, because when.
Speaker A:When I actually was talking about pronouncing silicon, right, I was like, yes, it is the second most abundant element in the.
Speaker A:In the universe, and we need it, needs its respect.
Speaker B:Love it.
Speaker A:Carbon only gets so much.
Speaker A:So give.
Speaker A:Silicon is deep.
Speaker C:So, okay, so.
Speaker C:So you guys meet Ashley.
Speaker C:You tell him.
Speaker C:You tell Chris what your vision is.
Speaker C:Chris, I assume at that point you say, okay, this is.
Speaker C:These.
Speaker C:These are what I can.
Speaker C:I can bring to this.
Speaker C:Let's.
Speaker C:Let's decide it.
Speaker C:It's not an instantaneous thing.
Speaker C:I mean, you.
Speaker C:You can do it on the side and start working on getting things set up.
Speaker C:You can set up an API and you can start setting up an app and, and getting demo demonstrations of it and things like that.
Speaker C:But, like, how.
Speaker C:There's got to be money involved, right?
Speaker C:There's money involved at this point.
Speaker C:Do you all have, like, investors that, that are.
Speaker C:That are helping to take care of getting this released?
Speaker B:So I think one of the really astonishing things about us is that we are fully bootstrapped to this point.
Speaker B:It is incredible how much progress you can make on something like this for free or very, very little.
Speaker B:Our team has been covering the incidental costs here and there of everything from Adobe Creative Suite to the AWS costs to Zoom.
Speaker B:You know, we've.
Speaker B:We've kind of been covering that up till now, and we're currently in a fundraising round.
Speaker B:So if you or anyone knows of angel investors, we would love to talk to them.
Speaker B:I think it's challenging for us going into this, you know, fundraising because we're so very protective over our why.
Speaker B:Over why we started this project.
Speaker B:And we've received such an incredible amount of early traction that quite honestly, is unprecedented for any other social media platform out there at the stage that we're at.
Speaker B:And so we've definitely had interest.
Speaker B:The problem so far is that some of this interest is really only seeing the dollar signs.
Speaker B:They're seeing this as a build it, churn it, burn it, walk away, collect your millions, and move on to the next one.
Speaker B:And while that's a very valid way to do business, that's just not the way that we're approaching it here at Neptune.
Speaker B:And so we're being incredibly choosy about who we're working with.
Speaker B:And the other thing about a lot of VCs is, is they want that, like, Buy in.
Speaker B:Literally.
Speaker B:So they're saying, we, we're giving you a big chunk of change.
Speaker B:We have an agenda here.
Speaker B:We want to make sure you're promoting these types of creators.
Speaker B:We want to make sure that you are, you know, selling this narrative.
Speaker B:We want to make sure, you know, nobody's talking about XYZ on your platform.
Speaker B:That's also been a challenge because as a team, that's very rooted in punk rock.
Speaker B:We don't like to be told what to say and what to do.
Speaker B:And neither do the other people that are signed up for our platform.
Speaker B:That's a huge draw for our user base.
Speaker B:So out of respect to them, out of us wanting to be able to sleep at night with our integrity intact, we're moving forward as best as we can, bootstrapped until we have those investors in place who are absolutely aligned with our mission.
Speaker C:It feels so much like the plot of Silicon Valley, right?
Speaker C:Does I assume everyone has watched Silicon Valley on hbo.
Speaker C:That.
Speaker C:That's what, that, that's what that sounds like.
Speaker C:Because I just, I remember the, the first few seasons of them going into meetings with these venture capitalists to try and sell them and that.
Speaker C:So I mean, you've, you've gone through that.
Speaker C:That's been your.
Speaker A:As long as you're not trying to calculate how long is going to take to jerk off 800 guys to get your proposal.
Speaker D:No, we haven't done that yet.
Speaker B:That's not been a calculation.
Speaker B:Never say never.
Speaker B:But so far.
Speaker A:All data parents have been in some sticky predicaments where that calculation has come to fruition.
Speaker C:I've worked for, I've worked for several software companies that know.
Speaker C:So Chris, you're also.
Speaker C:It has you listed as the cloud architect.
Speaker C:So server space that I assume that on basically this beginning process, you all are having to take care of the cost of that right now too.
Speaker D:Yeah, correct.
Speaker D:So with AWS cloud, there's several clouds.
Speaker D:There's gcp, there's Azure.
Speaker D:Most of these clouds, they are free to build on.
Speaker D:You can create an account, you can use the free tier.
Speaker D:You know, the part of their marketing five years ago was the democratization of cloud and you know, we can build without having to pay until we get volume.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:So, you know, the issue there is then the skill set.
Speaker D:And I wouldn't be surprised if more teams like ours pop up where, you know, just, I want to say regular people from around the country, where we work from home, you know, we can get together and start a business very similar to starting a small business together.
Speaker D:I'M actually kind of surprised there hasn't been more success stories, you know, among teams that have gotten together and attempted to build in the cloud just because, because of the cost.
Speaker D:I mean, our cost was under five bucks almost every month leading up until December.
Speaker D:And the only reason it went higher is because our domain got hit so much during our, you know, during our rise there.
Speaker D:But, you know, you do have to have some expertise, you know, as far as your developers, you know, building out and having, you know, I would say the developers are the most expensive parts of any of these projects.
Speaker D:The vast majority of what we see out there, as far as small teams are people without developers trying to raise money for like an external consultancy or something to build their stuff.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And so, you know, I think that we are fortunate that we have a team of developers that are dedicated, you know, towards this.
Speaker D:And that idealism, you heard, you know, earlier, that's something that we all, we all share that, that energizes us to go forward.
Speaker C:Neptune, just based purely on, on all of the, the feedback that I see in Discord.
Speaker C:And also, by the way, you've got some amazing moderators and administrators on Discord who are, yeah, we do.
Speaker C:The friendliest people.
Speaker C:Yeah, I, I, they, the, I'll see, I'll see six of them just get on, on chat and a voice and video chat and I jumped, say hey to them and absolutely some of the most friendly people I think I've ever met.
Speaker C:And no reason to be nice to me, they don't know who I am.
Speaker C:But just how many, how many beta users do you all have currently testing the app for you.
Speaker B:Chris?
Speaker B:I don't know the final head count.
Speaker D:There'S probably like 30 in there.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker D:Right now.
Speaker D:Yeah, they've made 250 videos at last check.
Speaker D:Yeah, so they're in there right now.
Speaker D:The app looks very simplistic.
Speaker D:It very much resembles TikTok at this moment.
Speaker D:What we're testing are the scaling, we're testing volume, what's coming into our servers.
Speaker D:So the front of the app, I don't want to say the front of the app is trivial, but we were presented with a situation in December where we knew we were going to have users on day one.
Speaker D:And that kind of changes our calculus for how we want to release with beta and mp.
Speaker D:Initially, you build an app, you try to call for every single user, every single mom, dad, cousin, Jim the neighbor.
Speaker D:And when we got all this attention, all of these email signups and beta user signups, we had to make sure our Cloud services were locked down, you know, whether it's scaling or security.
Speaker D:So when our users are going in, right now we're more or less testing, okay, when they upload a video, how many services did they use?
Speaker D:Is there anything hanging?
Speaker D:Are there any queues that are left?
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:All that fun stuff.
Speaker D:And that's primarily what we're testing right now.
Speaker D:There are actually features built in the app that I've commented out, if you know what that means, like our comment section itself.
Speaker D:And it will come to life one day for our beta users.
Speaker D:And I've been pushing updates to them daily.
Speaker D:And so that's very exciting because they re log in and say, what's this new thing?
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker D:So it's very exciting.
Speaker D:And just to speak selfishly as a developer, there is no more joy in designing a system or anything and then building it in a few days, getting it quickly, QA tested, and immediately thousands of people are involved in it.
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:And this happened with our username reservation System, which had 150,000 users five days after I built it.
Speaker D:And that's.
Speaker D:As a software developer, I feel like I'm living the dream.
Speaker C:That ultimately, I think was what I was trying to get to was because you may only have around 30 or so beta users currently testing the app, but there are hundreds of thousands of people that have signed up that want in.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:Have you.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:So just aside from, you know, Zach and myself, like, have we seen, like, any interest from any of the other social media platforms that have wanted to potentially make their appearance?
Speaker B:Make their appearance?
Speaker B:As in, like, come on to our platform or to have.
Speaker C:To have their user have.
Speaker C:Have at Meta or at Facebook?
Speaker B:Oh, no, no.
Speaker B:I'm sure at some point, but I think for right now, we're still.
Speaker B:While we're a major contender for, like, the new upstarts, and our name certainly has been mentioned in rooms with TikTok as the replacement, right alongside Blue sky and Rednote and all of that.
Speaker B:I think we're still small enough to kind of fly under the radar of Meta right now, but I will say we definitely do have some plants from other social media platforms in our Discord server.
Speaker C:Oh, okay, interesting.
Speaker B:So it's always fun to find the imposter.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:If Zuckerberg were to say our name, that would do us a whole lot of good.
Speaker A:Say it, Zuck.
Speaker D:Say it.
Speaker D:Just say it.
Speaker A:Well, that brings me.
Speaker A:You mentioned.
Speaker A:Where did the name come from?
Speaker A:Where's Neptune?
Speaker A:Where was the.
Speaker A:What was the thought behind that?
Speaker B:So when I first pitched this to Chris, the name was actually Gallery because I wanted everybody's profile to feel like their own personal gallery where they could show off their stuff.
Speaker B:But we found out that there was already a social.
Speaker B:Like, it wasn't like social, but it was like a video and photo sharing platform called Gallery.
Speaker B:So we had to nix that.
Speaker B:So we went to the next iteration, which was Mosaic, which was fun and cool, but again, it wasn't the right vibes.
Speaker B:Then we went to Mood Board, which is actually where we got our icon, Moody.
Speaker B:That's when he showed up, right along that timeline of evolution.
Speaker B:And so we had him, and we liked Mood Board.
Speaker B:But again, we ran into this issue of there was a photo sharing platform called Mood Board.
Speaker B:And I was like, it's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:So I.
Speaker B:I just don't want to have issues down the road.
Speaker B:And so we scrapped Mood Board.
Speaker B:And it took us a few weeks from that point to really iterate on a new name.
Speaker B:And I was an absolute, like, menace to anyone in my vicinity at the time because I'm looking at the patterns of previous social media platforms, right?
Speaker B:You've got Snapchat, Instagram, Facebook, TikTok.
Speaker B:So I'm like, it's got to be two syllables.
Speaker B:So I'm in here trying to create nonsense words.
Speaker B:Flim, flam, wick, whack om, genius.
Speaker B:Like, all of these.
Speaker B:Like, it was obnoxious.
Speaker B:Like, my poor fiance was like, maybe let's talk about something else.
Speaker B:And I was like, something else, else book.
Speaker B:Like, it was.
Speaker B:It was nuts.
Speaker B:I lived and breathed this for two weeks.
Speaker B:And.
Speaker B:And so I finally was like, literally.
Speaker B:And so I was like, well, let's look at the themes.
Speaker B:And so I was like, okay, so we have, you know, X, which everyone still kind of knows as Twitter, which is like the little bird and, like, super cute.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:X is just like, whatever.
Speaker B:And then there's Facebook, which was, like, too old to really have any sort of theme.
Speaker B:And then TikTok has the music notes, Snapchat has the ghost.
Speaker B:Like, there was.
Speaker B:There's little themes.
Speaker B:And I'm like, okay, no one's done a space or an underwater theme.
Speaker B:I was like, the closest space theme we have is Reddit, who's got the little.
Speaker B:The little alien guy?
Speaker B:But no one's really kind of themed it out.
Speaker B:And so I thought, okay, so, like, what are.
Speaker B:What are some.
Speaker B:So I asked, like, chatgpt, what are some related words to space and sea?
Speaker B:Like, what's the crossover here?
Speaker B:And I got a lot of different answers.
Speaker B:But then Neptune came Up.
Speaker B:And I was like, okay, Neptune.
Speaker B:That's cool, that's cool.
Speaker B:And it didn't sink in right away.
Speaker B:And then I was like, wait a minute.
Speaker B:That's two syllables immediately in the yes pile.
Speaker B:So then I kind of like let it roll around for a few days and I brought it to the team and I was like, what about Neptune?
Speaker B:What do you guys think about this?
Speaker B:And they were like, yeah, no, like we vibe with it and it happens to be my favorite planet.
Speaker B:Anyway, it's like the same color as our little octopus, Moody, still blue themed.
Speaker B:And I like Neptune because it just always has this air of mystery about it as a planet.
Speaker B:It feels undiscovered and really just intriguing.
Speaker B:And that's kind of how I see our creators.
Speaker B:And then of course, it kind of ties in with the nautical theme as well as a God of the sea.
Speaker B:So that's how we settled upon Neptune and it was available.
Speaker B:That was the other big problem we were running into is we couldn't find any of this stuff on like Instagram.
Speaker B:Nothing was available.
Speaker B:And so the Neptune app was available on literally, you know, URL, TikTok, Instagram, all.
Speaker B:All of it.
Speaker B:The Neptune app was available.
Speaker B:So we're like, well, that's it.
Speaker A:Well, I'll give you this here in that story.
Speaker A:I'll give you this pro bono.
Speaker A:Deep and far out.
Speaker B:Love it.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker C:I was, I was just scared Zach was going to suggest Uranus.
Speaker C:And no, I like Neptune.
Speaker A:It's on the wrong axis and everything.
Speaker A:It stands out from all the other planets.
Speaker C:It does.
Speaker C:That's very true.
Speaker C:It's true.
Speaker C:So, Chris, I know with a lot of the platforms, they struggle when they explode in popularity.
Speaker C:How is Neptune preparing to scale for what is definitely going to wind up being just an onslaught of user registration once it's available publicly?
Speaker D:That's a very open ended question, Barrett.
Speaker C:Sure, of course.
Speaker D:Because there's a technical answer to that, there's a feature answer, and there's business that we have to take into consideration.
Speaker D:We have costs behind all of our cloud services.
Speaker D:And like Ashley said, the ideal is that we own Neptune as much as possible.
Speaker D:And how do we bootstrap to get to scale?
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:I think the clear answer is monetization as early as possible.
Speaker D:From our perspective, creators want to monetize.
Speaker D:Creators are looking at a platform with a lot of interest in it.
Speaker D:So I think we could attract some creators that would, you know, play along with that, you know, but as a tech guy, what excites me are the CDNs.
Speaker D:The availability zones.
Speaker D:You know, how much data is a user going to use when they log into the app?
Speaker D:How many requests are they going to make back?
Speaker D:How much volume of videos are they going to watch?
Speaker D:How does that hit our file store?
Speaker D:How does that hit our database?
Speaker D:And take all of it and divide by number of users.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And we'll have our answers throughout beta testing.
Speaker D:I'm really excited to see how large the numbers can get.
Speaker D:To be fair, I'm kind of a nerd for these things.
Speaker D:I think there's going to be more data than we know what to do with, which is a good, good, good, good place to be.
Speaker C:Yeah, one of the, one of the.
Speaker C:Well, and I'll just say, I think one of the things that you all benefit from is the, the, the, the, the deluming cloud of, of what the federal government's trying to do as far as what TikTok is either going to be or either not going to be.
Speaker C:So having, having availability of an application that, that on paper right now is, is.
Speaker C:Is going to be built in a way that's going to benefit the users more than just, you know, pushing content to people that they may not necessarily want.
Speaker C:Me, I, you know, a lot of my posts that I put on TikTok or YouTube and things like that are satirical looks at politics and specifically the administration now.
Speaker C:So I will, I will make jokes and things that make you think, and then ultimately, I don't necessarily want that content coming back at me.
Speaker C:So to have the availability of some sort of.
Speaker C:Because nobody in my mind, nobody's as funny as me, Zach is, Is limited in his comic comedic ability.
Speaker C:But, sorry, my mom says I'm hilarious.
Speaker A:So does my life.
Speaker C:But, you know, but so, like, when I see that same sort of content coming back at me, that's the first thing I do is I flip the app, I move on to something else.
Speaker C:But I'm encouraged by what, you know, the ability to not potentially see the same thing over and over and explore some of what else is available.
Speaker C:I think my experience with.
Speaker C:So I did log into rednote.
Speaker C:I mean, rednote became something my wife pointed me at and, And I jumped on there.
Speaker C:And I have really enjoyed a lot of.
Speaker C:Donald.
Speaker A:Yes, Barrett did log on to RedNote.
Speaker C:Yeah, he knew.
Speaker C:He asked me this morning.
Speaker C:But, you know, but Red Note is one that I've enjoyed learning new things about cultural differences between us and China and preconceived notions about what goes on in China and how people live their daily lives.
Speaker C:If, you know, I went to school in the 80s and 90s and even, you know, looking back on what we were taught in our public school system made me think that China wasn't a great place.
Speaker C:But the people don't seem, you know, they don't seem oppressed like I think that I was taught to think they were.
Speaker A:But you do still think you can dig a hole straight down to China?
Speaker C:I can't dig a hole at all.
Speaker C:I have to hire people for that.
Speaker C:What are you talking about?
Speaker C:But so I, I guess, you know, when it, when it comes to, when it comes to what it is that you all are doing, it sounds like that's, that's one of the focuses.
Speaker C:It's not to just pigeonhole somebody into, you know, but to give them the availability to see and recognize, you know, learn new stuff.
Speaker C:I think that's, I think that's a really, really cool, really cool thing that's going to be going on there.
Speaker C:Ashley, our show sort of thrives on questioning the status quo.
Speaker C:So what's, what's one of the, what's one of the main mainstream social media features that Neptune is going to refuse to implement?
Speaker C:Is there anything that you all have recognized that you just don't want to do?
Speaker B:Oh, gosh, there's a couple things.
Speaker B:I think the first one is like AI powered fact checking.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:I think that's been a really hot topic lately, just with everything going on with meta and whatnot.
Speaker B:I think for us, AI, AI powered fact checking presents several issues.
Speaker B:The fact that we are so very clear about our support and backing of bipoc, queer and disabled folks.
Speaker B:Those are often the folks whose history gets written over whose, whose facts get checked because they don't match the AI model that was trained by a bunch of white people.
Speaker B:And I think that's, that's been something that a lot of people have said, well, you're going to have fact checking.
Speaker B:Now granted, we will allow people to report misinformation because certainly we don't want people spreading harmful misinformation.
Speaker B:That's going to be very clearly spelled out in our guidelines.
Speaker B:But we're not implementing AI fact checking.
Speaker B:So I think that's probably the first one.
Speaker B:The next one, which I don't know if you guys are even really familiar with this side of social media, is live stream agencies.
Speaker B:So live stream agencies really have kind of, I guess we could say, risen to power in the last couple years as livestream, particularly on TikTok, has gotten more mainstream and you know, more people are live streaming and essentially it's these agencies that pay their creators to go live knowing their creators will get gifts.
Speaker B:But each creator has a quota for how many hours a day they have to be live.
Speaker B:And oftentimes these agencies tend to be very exploitive.
Speaker B:I've definitely seen some evidence that some of them can be fronts for human trafficking.
Speaker B:And it just digs us into a hole that I don't want to be a part of.
Speaker B:So we're not going to be collaborating with agencies.
Speaker B:I know TikTok has carved out a really specific piece of their back end to enable these agencies to do what they do.
Speaker B:That's not something we're going to be doing.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And from our perspective on our podcast, so we don't really meet the criteria of what an agency wants.
Speaker C:We did our podcast, did join an agency, only because it gave us the ability to go live quicker without the number of followers.
Speaker C:But we don't get a lot of gifts because we got a rose one time.
Speaker C:We were like, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:So I think we have $0.03 banked in our, in our, our.
Speaker C:Tick tock.
Speaker C:But, and I think it's mostly because a lot of, a lot of the stuff that we get, people are not going to gift us when we give our opinions on politics and such.
Speaker C:But, but that, that totally, that does totally make sense.
Speaker C:As far as, like, I, I had no idea that that that was some of the stuff that was going on with agencies as far as, like, I, I.
Speaker C:And, and now that I think on it, some of the content that I scroll past it is, it's almost like it's the QVC home shopping network.
Speaker C:And it's not, it's not necessarily people just wanting to have conversations or talk about things all the time.
Speaker C:It's somebody selling something or it's, it's somebody just dancing.
Speaker A:I guess auto insurance ones get me now where like, they'll lead you on for like a minute.
Speaker A:And you're just like, whoa, he's gonna buy this guy AirPods and he's gonna take him like, why is this person fall?
Speaker A:And then they're like, let me show you one more thing.
Speaker A:After I gave you $5,000 in these for your AirPod Max.
Speaker A:Yep.
Speaker A:They're like, yeah, if you got onto this app and we can get you the best car insurance.
Speaker A:You're like, jesus, I just watched this whole thing for.
Speaker B:That was a waste of my time.
Speaker C:Do you know, I had no idea that was an auto insurance commercial.
Speaker A:I didn't either.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:They make you wait till the end before they do their big, like, reveal.
Speaker B:And then you're like, yeah, I just wasted minutes of my life watching this.
Speaker B:And now, yeah, thankfully I got off that side of TikTok pretty quickly.
Speaker B:But like, that was, that's just.
Speaker B:That was wild, I think.
Speaker B:Okay, so I thought of one more thing that's like, people have been really excited that we're not participating in the status quo here is we do not allow parent managed accounts for children on the platform.
Speaker B:This is social media for grownups.
Speaker B:We're 17 plus.
Speaker B:And so one of the biggest questions that we got asked, well, what about can I post family content?
Speaker B:Can I post content with my kids in it and all of that.
Speaker B:And like, we do have a space carved out for family content.
Speaker B:We understand that that's, that's a way that a lot of families connect.
Speaker B:They get education that maybe they weren't able to get from their own parents on how to raise kids or take care of babies and things like that.
Speaker B:The representation is important, but we're going to take a very firm stance on not allowing content that's just featuring children.
Speaker B:And there will be no parent managed accounts allowed on Neptune.
Speaker B:So that's been a really big flag planted that a lot of people are very in support of.
Speaker B:Um, because I think that just gives a lot of people the ick.
Speaker B:And to be fair to all of these parent managed accounts, you know, there's still places for them elsewhere on social media, so it just won't be on Neptune.
Speaker A:Yeah, I think that's great.
Speaker A:I think when I first joined TikTok, most of my comments were from like, kids.
Speaker A:Like, that's funny.
Speaker A:I'm like, what the hell?
Speaker A:Like, what are children like?
Speaker B:Even when you be in bed?
Speaker B:This is a school night.
Speaker A:What is this like?
Speaker A:Yeah, no, I think that's fantastic.
Speaker C:These are the same kids that used to just slaughter me in Call of Duty.
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:I feel like that's a certainty still.
Speaker C:I know, I know.
Speaker C:Privacy is, is one of the big things that a lot of people talk about.
Speaker C:Like with Tick Tock, this national security threat that they think China poses.
Speaker C:Is there going to be anything that you all.
Speaker C:I guess, is there, is there any attention to how privacy is going to be handled with the Neptune app?
Speaker B:Chris, do you want to take this one?
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:I can speak on a technical level.
Speaker D:One of my hard fast rules is that all the data remains in house.
Speaker D:So if we have a virtual cloud, a vpc, it stays behind us.
Speaker D:So any integrations we would perform with a third party, we would prefer that they deploy inside of us where we have complete ownership of it.
Speaker D:You know, looking, looking at like Cambridge Analytica with what, what happened with Facebook.
Speaker D:You know, Cambridge Analytica were one of dozens of companies that did business with Facebook, you know, doing data analysis, and Facebook would gladly hand over the data analysis or the access to it.
Speaker D:The issue there is you don't know everybody working at Cambridge Analytica.
Speaker D:You don't know anybody working at these companies.
Speaker D:And we know our security posture, we, we know our policies, and I'd much rather consider solutions that are internal to us, rather than working with a third party facing company that wants to suck our data out through a hose, do whatever they want.
Speaker D:And our data, I think of it, my email's in there too.
Speaker D:What do I want to have happen to my email?
Speaker D:What do I want to have happen to my data?
Speaker D:So treating it that way, it feels very personal.
Speaker D:And everything you type into your messages, everything you post, these companies own it, they can see it, they can go in the database, there you are.
Speaker D:And they're choosing who to expose that information to.
Speaker D:So I've been very mindful about that.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And so that, I guess people understand if it sounded technical.
Speaker C:What Chris is talking about is how in some apps that you use, you potentially click on something that then goes to another app or it automatically shifts data to another app that would potentially automatically fill in like a form or something for you to sign up for something, that sort of thing, APIs and such.
Speaker C:And the only reason I know that is because I work for a software company where we have to.
Speaker C:Where we are now testing a new API for, which is going to be a complete waste of time.
Speaker C:Sorry.
Speaker D:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker D:I do have a hard line and it feels like the right thing and it doesn't feel terribly difficult.
Speaker D:It doesn't.
Speaker D:I don't feel like I'm encumbering upon a third party that want to work with us.
Speaker D:So it just feels like the right thing to do.
Speaker D:It's something I would hope any company that I'm working with would, would also think of their, their users that way.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:What are some of the.
Speaker C:What are some of the glitches and the growing pains that you all have experienced just from, from start to now?
Speaker C:Beta testing?
Speaker C:Like what, what, what, what has.
Speaker C:For.
Speaker C:We'll go with Chris first.
Speaker C:What.
Speaker C:What is something that has made you throw your fists on the desk.
Speaker D:Users reserving more than one handle?
Speaker C:Oh, come on.
Speaker B:He took mine.
Speaker C:It hasn't even launched yet.
Speaker D:Okay, exactly.
Speaker D:Yes, keep talking.
Speaker D:No, we have a feature.
Speaker D:We had a feature which may come back where users can go over to our website and they can place an email in whoever they are, and they can place in three handles.
Speaker D:And then those handles get reserved in our system.
Speaker D:You know, the system checks.
Speaker D:If a handle is already reserved, it rejects you.
Speaker D:Right, Fair enough.
Speaker D:We had hundreds of thousands of people do this in a very short period of time.
Speaker D:And it's led us to understand how do we construct an account?
Speaker D:What is the concept of an account?
Speaker D:And how can you have three handles?
Speaker D:And if you block somebody who has three handles, do you block that one handle or do you block all the handles they own?
Speaker D:Do you block all future handles they're ever going to make?
Speaker D:And so we have to think of these things.
Speaker D:If you block somebody, they appear in your block list.
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:You can unblock them.
Speaker D:Do you see all three of their other handles or the other two?
Speaker D:Right.
Speaker D:And then if they remove that handle, are there handles they have in space somewhere that you've blocked that you're never going to get back again?
Speaker D:I don't know.
Speaker D:There's a lot to, like, think about.
Speaker D:And to be fair, to be fair, it drew a ton of traffic to our site and it brought a lot of attention to us.
Speaker D:People were posting using green screen filters.
Speaker D:They were posting on social media.
Speaker D:Look at my handle.
Speaker D:I got.
Speaker D:And those videos were going viral.
Speaker D:So I will concede that it was a good idea from the marketing business standpoint, but technically, it was a little bit of a nightmare.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, I can imagine.
Speaker A:We all know how it is to fight over a gamertag.
Speaker C:I don't.
Speaker C:That's one of those.
Speaker C:That's one of those weird things.
Speaker C:Like, you know, my handle is just my name.
Speaker C:And, And.
Speaker C:But having.
Speaker C:I worked in radio and television for years before I even had to go get a real job.
Speaker C:And so, like, you know, when I was on the radio, I had.
Speaker C:I had a nickname, but everybody knew me by my name.
Speaker C:So to.
Speaker C:To have a handle that.
Speaker C:That's different from just my name.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker C:To me, that feels odd.
Speaker C:Like if.
Speaker C:If I want to.
Speaker C:If I want to be recognized for anything, I'd prefer it not to be, you know, Tippity Top Man 14.
Speaker A:Did you go.
Speaker A:Did you reserve DJ Fuzzy Nuts?
Speaker C:I did not deserve.
Speaker C:See, and I don't think I deserve that.
Speaker C:I, you know, so Zach's cousin, no, Zach's uncle, was on the show because he has a band in North Carolina, and they asked him to come up with a nickname for me, and he called me DJ Fuzzy Nuts.
Speaker C:You know, it was one night, he did.
Speaker A:The man's name is even Better.
Speaker A:It's your mama's new boyfriend.
Speaker D:Oh, that's not bad.
Speaker D:I mean, that's.
Speaker D:That's fine.
Speaker C:Ashley, what's.
Speaker C:What.
Speaker C:What if.
Speaker C:If Chris didn't already take your answer.
Speaker C:What.
Speaker C:What's.
Speaker C:What's something that has made you just completely aggravated and throw your throat.
Speaker C:Throw your hands in the air.
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:Well, what day of the week?
Speaker B:No, I.
Speaker B:So as the CEO, right, my job is like the.
Speaker B:The very wise crow that, like, flies over the whole thing.
Speaker B:So, like, there's things in different departments where I'm just like, ah.
Speaker B:Like, it freaks me out over these things.
Speaker B:I think one of the biggest, though, was kind of what Chris said in terms of people reserving their user handles.
Speaker B:And from my perspective, it was a fantastic marketing technique.
Speaker B:Absolutely great.
Speaker B:We, like Chris said we got a ton of traction.
Speaker B:The problem was that a lot of these users don't know how to spell things or they were like, screwing around and they're like, yeah, hi.
Speaker B:They would send an email to support and they'd say, I accidentally reserved the username Fart.
Speaker B:Can I change it?
Speaker B:Because I don't actually want that.
Speaker B:I was just testing to see if it worked.
Speaker B:Are you kidding me?
Speaker B:I reserved my sister's username.
Speaker B:How do I undo that?
Speaker B:Are you joking me?
Speaker B:I accidentally put dot corn instead of dot com.
Speaker B:Okay, let's spell check things next time.
Speaker B:Like what?
Speaker B:People are typing with their elbows.
Speaker B:That was what made me want to slam my head on the desk.
Speaker B:Because while this was a great success, like, we also had thousands of emails in our support going, I need you to change the spelling on this.
Speaker B:That was not great success.
Speaker B:That was annoying.
Speaker B:And ultimately it was just taking our dev team away from doing what they had to do to get us to beta because they were spending so much time going into the database changing Fart to whatever this other person wanted.
Speaker B:And it's like, come on.
Speaker B:So that.
Speaker B:That was probably one of.
Speaker B:The biggest.
Speaker B:One of the biggest things there was that.
Speaker B:And then I think for me, just the frustration of trying to articulate why we're here and constantly seeing so much misinformation and just so much slander going around the Internet space.
Speaker B:And we've made it a really big point never to badmouth our quote, unquote competition.
Speaker B:We really don't see ourselves in competition with anyone because we're solving a different problem in a different way than really anyone else in the space.
Speaker B:So we kind of just stay in our lane, keep our head down and work.
Speaker B:We do have a lot of other Social media platforms, a lot of the other upstart ones just like us who are coming onto the scene and saying all these Neptune people and have you heard.
Speaker B:And da, da, da.
Speaker B:Like, that's.
Speaker B:That's fine.
Speaker B:But can you do.
Speaker B:Can't you do your marketing without having to tear somebody else down?
Speaker B:And so that, to me, is frustrating because that, to me, shows a lack of creativity in your marketing department.
Speaker B:Like, you can't think of anything else good to say about yourself that you have to go tear other people down.
Speaker B:You know, we've been called nepo babies.
Speaker B:People are convinced we're working with Zuckerberg.
Speaker B:They're convinced we're all secretly Chinese.
Speaker B:They're convinced that, you know, we're all maga.
Speaker B:They're convinced that, you know, we're.
Speaker B:I mean, you name it.
Speaker B:There's a rumor out there, like, I've been slut shamed.
Speaker B:I've been slandered.
Speaker B:I've had just complete lies told about me on the Internet.
Speaker B:Like, and that's the price you pay for, you know, being visible and being in the public space.
Speaker B:They're trying to do something different than.
Speaker B:Than.
Speaker B:Than what's been done before is people are going to hate on you because they don't know what else to say about it.
Speaker B:It hasn't worked yet.
Speaker B:They haven't seen the results yet.
Speaker B:So they're just going to gravitate towards skepticism and negativity.
Speaker B:So that's been something that I've had to navigate, the team's had to navigate, and.
Speaker B:But ultimately, like I said, we stay in our lane.
Speaker B:We put our head down, and we.
Speaker B:We go to work every day.
Speaker C:Do you feel like your.
Speaker C:Your.
Speaker C:Your time earlier as a.
Speaker C:As an influencer prepared you a little bit better for that potential negativity?
Speaker B:Yeah, definitely.
Speaker B:I think I didn't experience it to the level that we're experiencing it now, but I definitely went through that back when I was an influencer.
Speaker B:I got really big on TikTok, and it was.
Speaker B:It was awesome.
Speaker B:It was a really fun ride.
Speaker B:And I had built my entire platform based off of this, like, original character I had come up with for mafia TikTok.
Speaker B:And it was really fun, and my audience and I had, you know, a great time playing around with that.
Speaker B:And I went through some personal stuff.
Speaker B:I wound up getting a divorce, and they just leveled me.
Speaker B:I had smear campaigns going on.
Speaker B:I had, you know, and it didn't matter what the reason was.
Speaker B:It didn't matter who I was, didn't matter what I was doing.
Speaker B:It was it gives people something to talk about.
Speaker B:And ultimately, that was one of the reasons I walked away from that career as an influencer was because I was like, I.
Speaker B:I don't want this pressure.
Speaker B:I don't want to be this.
Speaker B:I don't want to do this.
Speaker B:And so I buckled, and I walked away.
Speaker B:And I regret that.
Speaker B:You know, like, I think everything's a lesson learned.
Speaker B:I carry very few regrets with me, but walking away and deleting that platform is a big one for me.
Speaker B:But I think, you know, like, one of those little video game characters, like, I go through and I collect all the things, you know, and I, I have all the tools now in my arsenal to, like, come at this final boss of, like, launching Neptune and having this onslaught of people who are like, are you really sure?
Speaker B:Like, this seems irrelevant.
Speaker B:Like, you know, why.
Speaker B:Why do you.
Speaker B:Why does it matter that you're a woman?
Speaker B:Why does it matter that you're queer?
Speaker B:Why does it matter that you're doing this?
Speaker B:Like, nobody needs this.
Speaker B:Nobody wants this.
Speaker B:I mean, like, all day, it's just chatter, but it allows me to, like, tune most of that out and just continue moving forward.
Speaker B:And there are times, like, I'm literally just a girl.
Speaker B:There are times when it really, truly hurts my feelings.
Speaker B:And I've had a moment on team calls where Chris has, you know, done like, hey, let's do a mental health check in.
Speaker B:Where's everybody at?
Speaker B:You know, and I'll turn my camera off, and they'll be like, ashley, are you crying?
Speaker B:And I'm just like, no.
Speaker B:And like, I am.
Speaker B:So I come back on camera, and they're like, what's the matter?
Speaker B:Like, people are so mean.
Speaker B:We're just trying to do something nice.
Speaker B:And, you know, it's like, I have my girl moments, and then we get back to it, you know, like, it just.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:This is life.
Speaker B:This is.
Speaker B:It's going to be this way indefinitely.
Speaker B:And so it's all a growth process.
Speaker B:And so learning to lean into, understanding that it's.
Speaker B:The chatter is going to be there.
Speaker B:Regardless of who you are, regardless of how you show up, you can't be liked by everyone, nor should you try to be.
Speaker B:So, like, put your head down, go to work, do the right thing, and stay secure in that.
Speaker C:That's.
Speaker C:I, I, I think that's amazing that it.
Speaker C:It seems like you have a really great team.
Speaker C:How many.
Speaker C:How many people are on the Neptune team currently?
Speaker B:Oh, my goodness.
Speaker B:We keep growing.
Speaker B:I feel like every week we're onboarding something new is it nine now.
Speaker D:I think it's nine at this point.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because I come from an environment where as far as like, and Chris probably recognizes some of this, but when you work for a software company, one of the things that you're constantly struggling with as a lead or a manager, I'm constantly having to keep the borders, having to make sure to maintain roles and responsibilities to keep others, other groups, other departments from coming in and trying to take advantage of the experience that somebody on my team has or, or pulling them out to do something else and having to set up boundaries that are constantly just someone's always trying to rip them down, but also just come into the defense of my team because, you know, we do quality assurance software testing, and if something gets missed, it's, it's not necessarily because we, we missed, we missed something.
Speaker C:It's because somebody in the business side of it didn't write the requirements the way they needed to be written in order to make sure that, that there wasn't a gap for that sort of thing.
Speaker C:But, but I, I think, I think what you guys are doing is really cool.
Speaker C:I really look forward to being able to, to log on one day and start creating content for, for people to see because I think that we're, I think we're worth being seen.
Speaker C:And I think the Neptune app is, is one that we're excited about, you know, being in at the beginning process.
Speaker A:So it's also about posting videos and stuff.
Speaker A:And I'm still in shock about how, how many followers he's gotten us so far.
Speaker A:And he's like, man, you should do, you should get on there and just make a quick video.
Speaker A:And I'm like, dude, I have no, I, I don't even, I love making funny videos.
Speaker A:I'm one of those ones who would do like, the repeat mouth stuff that was fun.
Speaker A:Or react to Super Troopers with a pickle that was fun.
Speaker D:Before all this, my videos got like tens of views and, and now I, I, I actually withdraw a little bit because I'm a little more careful of what I say because people cling to things.
Speaker D:And it's one thing to get into a little argument online.
Speaker D:It's another when there's like these 20 people say something about you.
Speaker D:These 20 people say something, you know, and there's this group of people that have gelled around us that I'm starting to adore, though.
Speaker D:And I do think that part is important as well, is that, yeah, there's this kind of cast of characters that are kind of, they pop up regularly in the comments or wherever, and they're like, you guys suck.
Speaker D:You know, but.
Speaker D:But then there's these people we've actually met that, you know, like the Neptune news guy, right?
Speaker D:He makes these videos.
Speaker D:Paul Bradley, he makes these videos.
Speaker D:He's just.
Speaker D:He.
Speaker D:He understands our enthusiasm, and he's just.
Speaker D:It's awesome what he does.
Speaker D:And.
Speaker D:And there's, like, random comedians that make really funny videos.
Speaker D:There's, you know, there's even some, like, anime.
Speaker D:I don't know what they're doing.
Speaker D:I'm not in that space.
Speaker D:But I see their videos, like, promoting Moody, like, on adventures, you know, we have.
Speaker D:In the Discord, there's a selfie section.
Speaker D:There's thousands and thousands of people that are posting selfies of who we're going to be, who we are.
Speaker D:And on Neptune, there's.
Speaker D:We have an artwork competition.
Speaker D:There's artwork of Moody, where it looks like some of them are, like, in crayon, and some of them are really, really, like, exquisite pieces.
Speaker D:And just.
Speaker D:And yeah, so it's like, when you have a community, you're going to have this kind of, you know, this gelling of all these different.
Speaker D:Different people.
Speaker D:And where I was going with this, I was going with this in that Ashley has been here before.
Speaker D:So when I was younger, I was in a punk band.
Speaker D:We played to dozens of people, and we would go to the mall and pass out flyers.
Speaker D:Come to the show.
Speaker D:Come to the show.
Speaker D:Come to the show.
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker D:You do this for weeks leading up to the show, and your flyer was, like, weekly world news, like, cutouts with, like, the cereal box.
Speaker D:Right?
Speaker D:And, like, the serial killer words, right?
Speaker D:Come to the show.
Speaker D:Five bucks, right?
Speaker D:And so I just.
Speaker D:I think of those.
Speaker D:Those days, like, promoting my band.
Speaker D:And I do feel like being in this group here does feel like a band.
Speaker D:You know, we spent six months building this out, and.
Speaker D:And with that expectation of having a fight for people, right?
Speaker D:And then we have videos that go viral in December.
Speaker D:I.
Speaker D:I call it my.
Speaker D:Our Pearl harbor day.
Speaker D:And we have this Pearl harbor day.
Speaker D:And suddenly I have 99 plus notifications.
Speaker D:Literally, like, I refresh, and there's 99 more.
Speaker D:Refresh, and there's 99 more.
Speaker D:I'm like, what is happening?
Speaker D:And Ashley has been a very good help with how I can handle that, you know, going live and just, you know, not responding to people that are saying ridiculous things.
Speaker D:However, if it gets so ridiculous, we will definitely respond to it.
Speaker B:Yeah, we've gotten spicy on some of our live streams before.
Speaker B:Just, like, there's some people That'll push your buttons long enough that you're just like, you know what?
Speaker B:Yeah, true socials that way.
Speaker B:Get out of here.
Speaker C:Yeah, mine is, mine is a little girl named I, I assume it's a girl named Lily who shows up on, on when I go live on like a Saturday morning just to talk about politics or whatever, try and convince people just be nice to each other.
Speaker C:There's.
Speaker C:It doesn't cost you anything to just suck it up and, and be friendly.
Speaker C:Don't.
Speaker C:I have this one person that shows up every time and I refuse to block whoever that individual is because part of its entertainment, and that's one of the things that I live by is everything between birth and death is just entertainment.
Speaker C:As long as it's not negatively impacting somebody, knowingly trying to harm someone, it's just entertainment.
Speaker C:But if it is negatively impacting somebody, then I'll fucking stand right up and step in front of them.
Speaker C:Because I disenfranchised communities, especially after President Trump was elected.
Speaker C:That was one of the things that I got more messages and contacts from people like that I know locally here in Columbia, South Carolina, purely just out of fear of, of what's going to happen now that being trans, they, they now they don't feel like human beings anymore because they, they've been completely marginalized outside of, of society by the one person in the country who gets to be our leader.
Speaker C:So you know, that's, I, I think and, and Zach can probably acknowledge the same thing that that's one of the things that we will always do is, is, is defend the people that, that need to be defended.
Speaker A:So yeah, you don't have to get it but you, you definitely don't have a right to be a dick about it.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Stretch of the imagination.
Speaker A:So we'll always stand up for those people who are like bear said, disenfranchised.
Speaker A:Not on the what people call normal side of things.
Speaker A:Whatever.
Speaker A:You're not them.
Speaker A:They're not.
Speaker A:You get a voice.
Speaker C:I'm the fucking least normal person I've ever known in my entire life.
Speaker C:So, you know, top that, I feel.
Speaker D:That, yeah, it's so this, I would just say that this era right now, what, what a time to be a creative, an artist, a punk rocker with something to say, especially politically.
Speaker D:You know, unfortunately we have to learn lessons as a society and you know, committing acts such as Donald Trump or, you know, those are things that we may have to go through together.
Speaker D:And you know, and I just, I think of how, how many artists arise out of Moments like this.
Speaker D:How many.
Speaker D:How many activists do.
Speaker D:And, yeah, you know, if you see something you don't like, I mean, say something.
Speaker D:You know, normalizing this stuff just gives it more power.
Speaker C:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker C:Well, Chris, Ashley, we really appreciate you coming on the show with us.
Speaker C:We look forward to the Neptune app being launched.
Speaker C:But before you go, I do have some questions because we have a segment on our program we call seven Questions.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:So you have to go through with these whether you like it or not.
Speaker A:So we'll ask them one through seven, and you both just each take a turn answering what you would do.
Speaker D:Take a turn.
Speaker C:Okay, so first.
Speaker C:First question.
Speaker C:What was the last thing you googled?
Speaker A:Or being door ask Jeeves, whichever you do.
Speaker B:Oh, I googled how to fix my mouse because it was doing an automatic horizontal scroll on any, like, webpage or application that allowed a horizontal scroll.
Speaker B:I couldn't figure out how to fix it.
Speaker B:I had to uninstall the driver and reinstall it.
Speaker B:And I figured, yeah, so I googled that.
Speaker C:Who is still developing web pages that have horizontal scrolling on it, like Google Sheets.
Speaker B:I was in Google Sheets, to be fair.
Speaker C:Okay, that makes more sense.
Speaker C:I just imagine some college kids first time with HTML and having to go all the way to the left.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:All right, Chris, what was the last thing you googled?
Speaker D:I'm going to sound really cool, but I was googling Hellcat records.
Speaker B:Okay, there you go.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker D:I was having a day.
Speaker C:All right, second question.
Speaker C:If you could have one superpower, what would it be?
Speaker B:I've always said that my.
Speaker B:I think the superpower that I would like to have would be, like, mind reading.
Speaker B:I'm generally actually pretty good at reading people, but I like to be sure.
Speaker B:It causes me a lot of anxiety sometimes.
Speaker B:Like, I'm.
Speaker B:I'm autistic and adhd.
Speaker B:So, like, reading people is very important to me, and it's hard for me to do sometimes.
Speaker B:So I think mind reading would probably be the one.
Speaker C:See, and I'm.
Speaker C:I'm unfortunately one of those people that.
Speaker C:So I've never been tested as autistic, adhd, anything like that.
Speaker C:But I am.
Speaker C:I am one of those people that recognizes people I make.
Speaker C:I have.
Speaker C:I'm a highly acute to observations about behavior.
Speaker C:So I can.
Speaker C:I can.
Speaker C:I can almost tell what somebody is either thinking or what their action is going to be purely based on what I've observed, which ultimately then my superpower is I can make those people cry very quickly.
Speaker C:So, Chris, what's your superpower?
Speaker D:I don't know.
Speaker D:If I can follow that.
Speaker A:You can be like me.
Speaker A:I just want to fly.
Speaker D:So this is my.
Speaker D:Okay.
Speaker D:This is my superpower.
Speaker D:Okay?
Speaker D:Don't judge me for it.
Speaker D:However, I would love the ability to sleep on command and stay asleep.
Speaker D:I feel like any.
Speaker D:Any kind of personal suffering I go through in life is exacerbated by being tired that day.
Speaker C:Chris, where.
Speaker C:Where do you live in the States?
Speaker D:I live in Connecticut.
Speaker C:Connecticut.
Speaker C:Okay, so chloroform and pot, both of those.
Speaker C:It's going to.
Speaker C:It's going to.
Speaker C:It's going to.
Speaker D:It's legal here.
Speaker B:Problem solved.
Speaker A:Look, Zachary is not a doctor, though.
Speaker A:He plays him on a podcast.
Speaker C:Zach.
Speaker C:Zach can tell you.
Speaker C:Zach can tell you.
Speaker C:I have.
Speaker C:I had a doctor that used to live across the street from me, and I asked him several times, is there any way you can get a hold of chloroform?
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:Just a little.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker C:I just want to try it on me.
Speaker C:I want to see what happens.
Speaker C:Do I wake up with a little.
Speaker A:Police van parked outside his house for six months?
Speaker C:All right, next question number three.
Speaker C:If your life were a movie, what would the title be?
Speaker B:Oh, God, that's a good one.
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker B:I don't know, because I feel like now I'm trying to look at my life through the lens of, like, different people.
Speaker B:Right.
Speaker C:Okay, well, all right, so I'll do this.
Speaker C:Chris, you're a musician.
Speaker C:Zach's musician.
Speaker C:Ashley, you're.
Speaker C:You.
Speaker C:You're an influencer.
Speaker C:If you.
Speaker B:I'm a musician.
Speaker B:That's fine.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Musician too.
Speaker C:Fantastic.
Speaker C:Let's say if.
Speaker C:If you had a movie made about you, what would the opening song track to the title be like?
Speaker C:As the movie's opening, what would.
Speaker C:What would the song be?
Speaker B:Okay, so hear me out, because this is gonna take a second to explain.
Speaker B:So there's this artist and his name is J2, and he takes, like, random songs and he, like, remixes and redoes them to sound like movie epic trailers.
Speaker B:So he does this version of I Will Survive, like, you know, the disco hit Glory Gainer.
Speaker B:I Will Survive.
Speaker B:He does this, like, movie trailer style version of I Will Survive.
Speaker B:Gives me chills every time.
Speaker B:So it will.
Speaker B:It would be that one.
Speaker C:I'm gonna have to look that up.
Speaker C:I've heard.
Speaker A:I think I've heard of him and J2.
Speaker B:Look him up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Like, if you need to hype yourself up before going somewhere and be like, yeah, you roll up to the function, you're like, I'm the.
Speaker B:You listen to J2 first.
Speaker B:You're like, I'm ready.
Speaker B:Power pose.
Speaker B:Let's go.
Speaker B:It's good stuff.
Speaker C:Chris, what's your opening song title?
Speaker D:You know, I think it would be Machine Head by Bush or maybe Smells like Teen Spirit.
Speaker D:Sure.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:Zach, what would your, what would your.
Speaker C:I've never asked Zach this question.
Speaker A:Oh, God.
Speaker A:It'd probably be Mothers of Men by Co Eden Cambria.
Speaker C:Okay, all right.
Speaker C:That's good.
Speaker C:Mine would be Underground by Ben Folds Five.
Speaker C:I don't know why that would, but that would be.
Speaker C:That's what I wanted to open up.
Speaker A:I was really close to saying Apt by Rose.
Speaker A:My daughter listens to it all the time.
Speaker A:It's in my brain.
Speaker C:His four year old daughter listens to it all the time.
Speaker C:All right, question number four.
Speaker C:If you could eat one food for the rest of your life, what would it be?
Speaker B:Tiramisu.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker D:It's easy.
Speaker D:Salad with tomatoes, red wine vinegar, oil and mozzarella cheese.
Speaker A:Well, that sounds delicious.
Speaker B:Salad for dinner now?
Speaker D:Every day.
Speaker B:Every day you have that every day.
Speaker D:Every day.
Speaker D:I eat a salad every single day.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker B:I love that for you, Chris.
Speaker C:You know?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Good and good for you, Chris.
Speaker A:I I Cola needs the roughie.
Speaker C:We're gonna have to, we're gonna stay him.
Speaker C:I, I feel like I need Chris as my, my, my weight loss mentor now to just to.
Speaker C:If I, if I email him like, hey, I'm thinking about having a Jamaican pastry.
Speaker C:Beef pastry with.
Speaker D:No salad is a lazy meal.
Speaker D:It's a lazy meal.
Speaker D:You throw it all in a bowl and you just go and eat it.
Speaker A:It is.
Speaker C:All right, question number five.
Speaker C:What is your least favorite candy and why.
Speaker B:Tootsie Rolls?
Speaker B:I just.
Speaker B:They look like little turds and they don't taste good.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:I think that right there with you.
Speaker C:That is almost literally what Zach has quoted about Tootsie Rolls before the most worthless candy.
Speaker B:You understand?
Speaker B:I don't know who chooses first.
Speaker B:I've never met someone whose favorite candy is Tootsie Rolls.
Speaker A:You're.
Speaker A:You're, you're just going to chew on it for a while.
Speaker A:You're not going to be happy that you're in it.
Speaker A:Once you start, you're unhappy when you unwrap it.
Speaker A:You know it's not.
Speaker C:You get to the bowl and that's the only thing in there.
Speaker C:You're like, oh, no, I'm good.
Speaker B:You're like, I wasn't hungry for candy.
Speaker B:Nope.
Speaker C:What do you think?
Speaker A:I lost three teeth chewing on this.
Speaker A:It's fantastic.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker D:Crowns.
Speaker D:They pop right off.
Speaker B:Yep.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Oh, a junior Mints.
Speaker D:They taste like toothpaste.
Speaker D:Like I'm eating God's toothpaste.
Speaker C:That's fair enough.
Speaker D:It feels wrong to me.
Speaker C:That's fair.
Speaker C:My son comes home from work like his, his, his.
Speaker C:He works at Little Caesars.
Speaker C:His.
Speaker C:The store that he works at is directly next to a grocery store.
Speaker C:He'll come home with a box of Thin Mints.
Speaker C:It's not open.
Speaker C:It's just sitting on the counter.
Speaker C:It's like, whose Thin Mints are these?
Speaker C:He'll claim them, but I never see anybody eat them.
Speaker C:So, you know, I will eat all.
Speaker B:The mint flavored things.
Speaker B:I ate toothpaste as a child religiously and graduated to Thin Mints and Junior Mints.
Speaker D:All right, you can have my Junior Mints.
Speaker B:Mint chocolate chip ice cream is my favorite.
Speaker B:I'm a minty girl.
Speaker B:It's fine.
Speaker B:No shame.
Speaker A:I picture you saying no one ever eats them, but the box is gone and you just wake up with chocolate on your mouth.
Speaker B:You're like, where did they go?
Speaker C:That's my teeth.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:My Mr.
Speaker C:Hyde is apparently a really big fan of Thin Mints.
Speaker C:All right, excuse me.
Speaker C:Question number six.
Speaker C:What is one strange or unusual talent that you have that no one knows?
Speaker B:I can, I can turn my tongue into like a three leaf clover.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:I think we've had one other guest bring that up as their talent.
Speaker C:I think we have.
Speaker C:We've had one other guest.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:I can tie a cherry stem into a knot with my tongue.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker B:I used to be able to do that.
Speaker C:You give me, you give me and my, my dementiated mouth enough time.
Speaker C:I'll, I'll get that done.
Speaker D:I'm really good at this.
Speaker D:I'm really good at this, by the way.
Speaker D:Look.
Speaker A:Okay, there you go, Chris.
Speaker B:Put your thumb back together.
Speaker D:I'm that guy at the, at the, at the kids for the, for the elementary school.
Speaker D:I'm like, hey, kid, pulling the quarter.
Speaker B:Out of someone's ear.
Speaker B:Don't spend this all in one place, kiddo.
Speaker A:If I tried to.
Speaker A:If I tried to tie like a cherry stem with my tongue, I would just be like in the corner of a room looking like sling blade.
Speaker A:Like.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:You're like.
Speaker C:I can blow air out of one of my eye sockets.
Speaker C:You want to hear it?
Speaker C:Here, listen.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Oh, that's coming.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's coming out.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker A:I've seen it in person.
Speaker C:It's not.
Speaker C:Somebody asked me.
Speaker C:Somebody asked me, how'd you find out you could do that?
Speaker C:I sneezed and ultimately.
Speaker B:Oh, my gosh.
Speaker D:My eyeballs fell out.
Speaker B:He's like a pug.
Speaker B:He's just like a pug.
Speaker B:He's like, hold on, guys.
Speaker B:I gotta.
Speaker D:Fantastic.
Speaker A:I was like, you ever shot milk out of it?
Speaker A:He's like, no.
Speaker A:This is as far as I go.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Spaghetti noodle.
Speaker C:I used to watch David Letterman.
Speaker C:He had stupid human pet tricks.
Speaker C:And that was one of the things that somebody came on there and did is they.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:They squirted milk out of their eye socket.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And I was.
Speaker C:And when I figured out I could do the air thing, I was like, there is no way I'm ever going to cross that line.
Speaker A:Listen, I won't even try a neti pot.
Speaker A:I'll be stuffed up before.
Speaker B:I will suffer.
Speaker B:I will suffer.
Speaker B:Absolutely not.
Speaker C:I love a good sinus cleansing.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker C:It.
Speaker A:You know, you want to drown until you're ready to not drown.
Speaker C:See, and that's another thing I think.
Speaker C:I think that my unusual talent.
Speaker C:I think I could be waterboarded without any.
Speaker C:Without any issue.
Speaker C:I'd never.
Speaker A:Patreon goal.
Speaker A:Let's go.
Speaker C:Patreon goal.
Speaker C:Zach gets to waterboard.
Speaker A:Barrett thinks he could take it.
Speaker A:His children will be the ones waterboarding.
Speaker A:Go ahead.
Speaker A:Get the carafe.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:All right, last question.
Speaker C:If you could have dinner with any three people, dead or alive, who would it be?
Speaker B:I would love to have dinner with my founding team, with Chris and Annie and Nick.
Speaker B:We actually haven't met in person yet, and it's one of those things.
Speaker B:We've been through so much together over the last almost year now, and it started off just meetings once a week to kind of update each other on progress and dream and strategize, and now we're on zoom with each other almost every single day.
Speaker B:And so I was.
Speaker B:I would love to have dinner with them in person.
Speaker B:We all have compared heights now, and so we're all prepared.
Speaker B:Those who are shorter are prepared to see those who are.
Speaker B:You guys got the taller ones today on your podcast.
Speaker B:So the shorter ones have been.
Speaker B:They're prepared.
Speaker B:So then that way, when the giants show up to the table, they're not afraid.
Speaker B:We don't want to scare the little ones.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's no.
Speaker A:You dress up like Gandalf and the Ranger, and they have to dress up, like, with hobbits, like, when you first.
Speaker C:Meet, and you're just like, there's no.
Speaker B:I will 100 go as.
Speaker B:As Aragorn.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I literally.
Speaker B:Lord of the Rings is my absolute favorite.
Speaker C:Ashley, how tall are you?
Speaker B:I'M five, nine, five, nine.
Speaker C:Okay, that's, that's.
Speaker B:But I'm usually.
Speaker B:I'm usually in heels, so I'm usually about six, six foot.
Speaker A:Okay, nice.
Speaker C:All right, Chris, I'm assuming you're somewhere in the six foot, six, two.
Speaker C:Good night.
Speaker A:Yeah, I'm, I'm.
Speaker A:I'm six foot.
Speaker A:Five eleven.
Speaker A:Six foot.
Speaker A:If I wear shoes, my wife is flat footed.
Speaker A:Five eleven.
Speaker A:So we're.
Speaker B:We're like, it's awesome.
Speaker A:Usually the.
Speaker C:I'm gonna tell.
Speaker A:Even she still has to reach stuff for me because I have just short arms.
Speaker A:I'm like, can you get the toilet paper from the very top shelf where you put it?
Speaker A:Because you're rude.
Speaker C:Yeah, I'm gonna.
Speaker C:I have to.
Speaker C:I always have to go back to my Ron White joke.
Speaker C:I'm about 6 foot, 1.
Speaker C:Depending on which convenience store I'm walking out.
Speaker D:I know that.
Speaker B:What a throwback.
Speaker C:Chris, I don't know how you're going to top it, but who.
Speaker C:Who would you like to have a meal with?
Speaker D:A meal with probably interesting people I'd like to talk to.
Speaker D:I would.
Speaker D:I would probably authors of books that I love.
Speaker D:Brandon Sanderson, Joe Abercrombie.
Speaker D:Throw in a nonfiction.
Speaker D:Mary Roach.
Speaker D:Yeah, she's.
Speaker C:I think if I were to pick an author, I think Bill Bryson would be a good author to sit down.
Speaker D:Yeah.
Speaker D:Yep.
Speaker C:A meal with.
Speaker A:I would have liked to sit with Christopher Hitchens.
Speaker A:That would have been a cool one.
Speaker A:Outside of like, keep your Muslim ideas to yourself, but I like everything else.
Speaker C:Douglas Adams would have been a good one.
Speaker C:I enjoyed a meal with Douglas Adams.
Speaker C:That would have been cool.
Speaker A:Well, actually, one day.
Speaker A:One day, one of our guests will say, you and me.
Speaker A:It will happen.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker D:Oh, is that.
Speaker D:Is that what you're doing?
Speaker D:You're digging.
Speaker A:Both of our mothers on and they still will be like anybody else but you two.
Speaker B:Not.
Speaker B:Certainly not Zach, if that's what you're leading into.
Speaker A:No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker B:Maybe Barrett if I'm desperate, but never Zach if.
Speaker C:In.
Speaker C:In.
Speaker C:In our parents defense, though, they have eaten around us before.
Speaker C:And you know me, 40 years of experience.
Speaker C:Zach, you're like, I just feel like.
Speaker B:Probably Zach's mom's tired of cutting his steak for him.
Speaker B:Like, I think he.
Speaker B:She just needs a break.
Speaker A:Cutting it.
Speaker A:She started chewing it for me.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker D:Like a little bird.
Speaker B:Mom of the year.
Speaker B:That's mom of the year.
Speaker B:Please get her something nice this year.
Speaker C:Zach, on that.
Speaker C:On that bombshell.
Speaker C:On that bombshell, I think we're gonna wrap it up.
Speaker C:I want to thank Chris Jones, CTO and architect cloud for the Neptune app as well.
Speaker C:Ashley, CEO of the Neptune app.
Speaker C:Very excited for what you guys are doing and and very much look forward to getting the log on and, and actually start posting content to it so that, you know, if we, if we make you guys a little money, that's that, that's our goal.
Speaker C:That's what we'd like to do.
Speaker B:Awesome.
Speaker D:Thank you.
Speaker C:Thank you very much.
Speaker C:That's going to do it.
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