Navigating Controversy: Trump and the 14th Amendment
The discourse presented in this podcast episode centers around the critical examination of the 14th Amendment, particularly in light of recent attempts by former President Donald Trump to redefine American citizenship. As we delve into the historical context and ramifications of such efforts, we underscore the amendment's significance as a cornerstone of civil rights, which guarantees citizenship to all individuals born within the United States. The discussion elaborates on Trump's controversial executive actions aimed at altering the interpretation of birthright citizenship, igniting legal disputes and political discourse that challenge the foundational principles of equality and justice inherent in American identity. Through this analysis, we confront the potential consequences of undermining the 14th Amendment, which could precipitate a broader erosion of civil liberties and the very fabric of American society. As we navigate these complex themes, it becomes imperative for citizens to remain informed and engaged in the ongoing debates that will indelibly shape the future of our nation.
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Speaker A:This is episode number 252.
Speaker A:I am bear Krueger.
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Speaker A:So gonna do a bit of a breakdown on the 14th Amendment here because there is a Supreme Court case that is going to be heard on May 15th.
Speaker A:So I want to talk about the 14th amendment and Donald Trump's attack on Birthright citizenship and just sort of go in depth on that here in just a few minutes.
Speaker A:Going to do that.
Speaker A:But first, it's time again to check in with Sarah Jane Byers for common sense.
Speaker A:She has decades of experience in the classroom, ministry, and life in South Carolina.
Speaker A:Sarah Jane has seen and done it all, from raising a family to shaping minds.
Speaker A:She's got a perspective that only comes from living through it.
Speaker A:So let's hear what pearls of wisdom she's got for us today.
Speaker B:President Teddy Roosevelt and was an avid outdoorsman, traveled the US Far and wide.
Speaker B:He discovered that our country had a number of unique natural features and significant historical sites that warranted preservation during his tenure.
Speaker B: Antiquities act was passed in: Speaker B: rk Service was established in: Speaker B:Currently, the National Park Service operates 433 sites throughout our country, providing recreation, education, conservation and tourism, drawing 331 million visitors in the past year, 14 million from foreign countries.
Speaker B:However, the federal government has been less than enthusiastic about their financial investment, which remains minimal and now decreasing even more.
Speaker B: In: Speaker B:24 years later, it is a merely 2.5 billion.
Speaker B: % from: Speaker B:And more losses further threaten even less access.
Speaker B:The Trump administration is aggressively opposed to preservation of natural resources, motivated only by profit made via businesses.
Speaker B: billion of profit in: Speaker B:But that just doesn't satisfy.
Speaker B:He has plans for leasing public land to oil companies, who already get $20 billion in subsidies from taxpayers yearly and timber harvesting groups.
Speaker B:Also, mining operations want a piece of the pie as well.
Speaker B:Selling off millions of acres of land is a very real possibility, too.
Speaker B:National lands conduct their work using an incredibly small number of employees, about 20,000 workers for 433 sites and 85 million acres of land.
Speaker B:That's only an average of 46 staff per site.
Speaker B:If they were distributed equally.
Speaker B:Volunteers are crucial to their operations.
Speaker B:Their Contributions are They lead or support education and public facing programs.
Speaker B:They maintain or rebuild trails and historic buildings.
Speaker B:They conduct research or monitor wildlife to preserve our natural resources.
Speaker B:They help families make memories happen as a campground host.
Speaker B:They teach others about the park and swear in new junior rangers in the visitor center Support libraries, archives and museums in parks to preserve our cultural resources Produce art while staying in a park as an artist in residence Educate trained travelers on the natural and cultural heritage of a region through the Trails and Rails program.
Speaker B:The sorely underfunded and understaffed parks are hit even harder by the Trump administration.
Speaker B: ,: Speaker B:Leases for 34 buildings were canceled, including the science headquarters in Colorado with 100 employees there.
Speaker B:All these changes and shifts in priorities severely impact our natural resources, adding massive pollution of air, water and land, destroying wildlife habitat, including the possible loss of endangered species and a definite deprivation of recreation and education for American people and visitors from other countries.
Speaker B:Conscientious parents and adults who value more than just money benefit greatly from these parks.
Speaker B:Many spend their entire vacation time exposing their children or educating themselves to places such as the Grand Canyon, the rocky shores of Arcadia, watching the herds of bison and geysers in Yellowstone, the majestic peak of Half Dome in Yosemite, the desert beauty of Death Valley, the massive trees in Sequoia, the glaciers and glacier, the alligators and birds in the Everglades, just to mention a few exposure to the actual sites of history in Boston, Appomattox Courthouse, Andersonville, Chaco Culture in New Mexico, Cumberland Gap and many others.
Speaker B:So they don't only read about them, they can actually envision the event, viewing artifacts associated with their experience.
Speaker B:Many parks provide campsites, cabins and lodges, allowing us to live in a more primitive fashion for a short while, learning that the end and be all are not on screens of computers, phones and televisions.
Speaker B:Activities like hiking, fishing, bird watching, swimming in lakes, cooking on a fire, kayaking, canoeing, whitewater rafting and many more demonstrate the excitement and fun nature provides.
Speaker B:Children are taught an appreciation for nature, how to care for it and what it provides for all of us.
Speaker B:They witness diversity in reality among plants, animals and people from all corners of the world that urban or suburban life cannot provide.
Speaker B:Studies have proven that spending time in natural areas reduces anxiety and tension, warding off depression, children and adults a desperate need in our society.
Speaker B:While business profit seems to be the sole driving force for the Trump administration, some things exceed anything money can buy.
Speaker B:Those experiences and the pleasure knowledge and community we gain from national parks cannot be duplicated with any form of business.
Speaker B:It is imperative that we actively do what we can to keep these treasures operating and preserved for our welfare and that of our progeny.
Speaker A:Thanks again to Sarah Jane Byers for our Common Sense Update.
Speaker A:That's a diatribe that we do here exclusively on the All About Nothing podcast.
Speaker A:Really appreciate Sarah Jane for letting us air her opinions on the podcast.
Speaker A:I think it brings a wealth of information to the show and I really appreciate Sarah Jane for that.
Speaker A:She is a Columbia, South Carolina native lifelong.
Speaker A:She's got a bachelor's and master's degree in health education and biology.
Speaker A:She also has a lay ministry degree from the University of South Theological Seminary.
Speaker A:She has a doctorate in education leadership as well as she has 44 years of experience teaching public high school.
Speaker A:So just an extreme wealth of experience that is invaluable, especially when it comes to our podcast.
Speaker A:Really appreciate her coming on and doing these things with us.
Speaker A:So one of the things that I talked about before Sarah Jane came on is that I wanted to do an episode about the unraveling or the attempted unraveling of the 14th Amendment.
Speaker A:And this is basically Donald Trump's quest to redefine American citizenship.
Speaker A:Well, Donald Trump and the people that he surrounds himself with.
Speaker A:So in recent months, President Donald Trump has reignited a contentious debate by attempting to challenge the 14th Amendment of the Constitution.
Speaker A:So, as you probably know, this amendment is a cornerstone of American civil rights and guarantees citizens to all individuals, or, I'm sorry, it guarantees citizenship to all individuals born in the United States.
Speaker A:Trump's efforts to redefine this principle have sparked legal battles, political discourse, and concerns about what the future of American citizenship is going to be.
Speaker A:So why is President Trump targeting the 14th amendment?
Speaker A:What are the historical underpinnings of this constitutional provision, and what could be the ramifications of altering its interpretation?
Speaker A:Let's explore these questions in depth.
Speaker A:So to understand the current controversy, we have to revisit the origins of the 14th Amendment.
Speaker A: Ratified in: Speaker A:Not really.
Speaker A:The Amendment was designed to address the status of formerly enslaved individuals and to establish clear definition of American citizenship.
Speaker A:The citizenship clause of the 14th Amendment states that all persons born or naturalized in the United States are subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside.
Speaker A: t vs Sanford case decision in: Speaker A:But by enshrining birthright citizenship in the Constitution, the 14th Amendment aimed to ensure that all individuals born on U.S.
Speaker A:soil, regardless of race or parentage, were granted full citizenship rights.
Speaker A:This principle, known as just solely or the right of the soil, has been a fundamental aspect of American identity for over 150 years.
Speaker A:So the 14th amendment has played a pivotal role in numerous landmark Supreme Court cases that have shaped American society.
Speaker A: States versus Wong Kim Ark in: Speaker A: sus the Board of Education in: Speaker A:So these decisions underscore the amendment's broad impact on civil rights and liberties, making any attempts to alter its interpretation a matter of significant consequence.
Speaker A:President Trump's challenges to the 14th Amendment are not new.
Speaker A: m upon entering the office in: Speaker A:Trump wasted zero time in advancing this agenda.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:The order sought to reinterpret citizenship clause by denying automatic citizenship to children born in the United States to parents who were undocumented immigrants or on temporary visa status.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:citizenship if the father was neither a U.S.
Speaker A:citizen nor a lawful permanent res.
Speaker A:The administration justified this move by arguing that such individuals are not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, a phrase from the 14th Amendment.
Speaker A:However, this interpretation runs counter to long standing legal precedent, particularly the Wong Kim Ark decision.
Speaker A:The Executive Order faced immediate legal challenges.
Speaker A:Multiple lawsuits were filed by states and civil rights organizations, leading to a federal judge's issuing of a preliminary injunction blocking its interpretation or implementation.
Speaker A:Sorry.
Speaker A:Judge John C.
Speaker A:Kaufner of the Western District of Washington described the order as blatantly unconstitutional.
Speaker A: ,: Speaker A:So Trump's push to redefine birthright citizenship aligns with his broader political strategy of appealing to national nationalist sentiments and concern over immigration.
Speaker A:By challenging the 14th amendment, he taps into a segment of the electorate that views current immigration policies to be too lenient and believes that birthright citizenship incentives incentivizes illegal immigration.
Speaker A:This approach also serves to divert attention from other pressing issues and galvanizes his political base by portraying himself as a defender of the American sovereignty and values.
Speaker A:Critics argue that such tactics sow division and undermine the inclusive principles upon which the nation was founded.
Speaker A:Altering the interpretation of the 14th Amendment could have far reaching implications.
Speaker A:If birthright citizenship is denied to certain groups, it could result in significant population of stateless individuals born in the United States who lack the citizenship, leaving them without legal protections or access to essential services.
Speaker A:Such a shift would not only contravene establish legal precedent, but also challenge the nation's commitment to equal rights and due process.
Speaker A:It could open the door to further erosion of civil liberties and set a precedent for redefining other constitutional protections.
Speaker A:So the 14th Amendment stands as a testament to the American dedication to equality and justice.
Speaker A:Efforts to undermine this provision threaten to unravel the progress achieved over the past century and a half.
Speaker A:As debates continue to legal battles unfold, it's imperative for citizens to stay informed and engaged.
Speaker A:The outcome of these challenges will shape the nation's identity and values for generations.
Speaker A:There's not a whole lot that else can be said.
Speaker A:This is mostly an attempt to undermine what is defining people as citizens in this country.
Speaker A:And for 150 years we've recognized anyone born or naturalized in the United States as being a citizen of this country.
Speaker A:We've recognized that under the Constitution that due process is something that is afforded to everyone on soil, regardless of their immigration status, citizenship, visas, whatever.
Speaker A:The United States fundamentally is a place of equality and justice for all.
Speaker A:And ultimately, Donald Trump and his administration are attempting to undermine what it is to be an American, to be a citizen of this country, or even just be a visitor to this country.
Speaker A:It's extraordinarily dangerous.
Speaker A:I have to believe that the people that voted for Donald Trump, while they want illegal immigration to stop, which it never will, we will always have some level, some percentage of people in the United States that are here illegally.
Speaker A:It's just, it's part of being humans.
Speaker A:Human nature is to migrate.
Speaker A:We come from nomads and ultimately in the end, people are going to move and there will always be opportunity to go from one country to another, regardless of how tall you build the walls or how many soldiers you put behind them.
Speaker A:It's always going to be the case.
Speaker A:The United States thrives on the migrants that come here and help and are paid for the work that they do.
Speaker A:They pay their taxes, they pay into social services that they will probably never be afforded to them.
Speaker A:This is the United States.
Speaker A:This is the country we live in.
Speaker A:It's hard to believe that we still have people in this day and time that are so centered on this idea of hate against people that are different from them, on a personal respect, recognizing that people I know will literally go into the Walmart and will count the number of brown and black people that they see, not purely out of curiosity, but because maybe they've given thought to potentially calling the ICE hotline, notifying them that they think that they're the people at the Walmart in West Columbia, South Carolina, that are here illegally.
Speaker A:It's disturbing that someone would want to go to the effort of completely upending someone else's life that has made no impact on yours, purely based on the color of their skin or the language they speak, or language, perhaps the language they don't speak.
Speaker A:It is disturbing.
Speaker A:And for a lot of these people to call themselves Christians to believe that they're following in the footsteps of Jesus, it doesn't make any sense to me.
Speaker A:Not from the readings of the Bible that I have read many, many times.
Speaker A:I was a practicing Catholic for many years.
Speaker A:I have read through the Bible many, many times and the actions and behavior of people that I know that consider themselves to be Christian.
Speaker A:I am dumbfounded at how you came to that definition.
Speaker A:I'm just dumbfounded.
Speaker A:Anyhow, that is, that is my take on what is going on with the 14th amendment.
Speaker A:So before we close out the show, I do have a couple of things that I did want to discuss.
Speaker A: ld Trump is Now selling Trump: Speaker A:So this either confirms that he is either serious about running or it confirms that he really, really just want to.
Speaker A:Wants to troll the Democrats.
Speaker A:And really the nation in Ipsis poll indicated that 80% of voters do not want him to run for a third term.
Speaker A:That was Republicans, Democrats and independents, 80%.
Speaker A:Currently the president is polling somewhere in the high 30s to low 40s when it comes to his job or an approval on his job of how he's doing in respect to the economy.
Speaker A:That's not good.
Speaker A:He's.
Speaker A:He's basically completely blown away and wasted the entire, the entirety of his honeymoon phase of him becoming president.
Speaker A:Again, completely wasted it.
Speaker A:It's gone.
Speaker A:I mean, no president in history has seen approval ratings plummet as quickly as Donald Trump has.
Speaker A:And you can deny it if you.
Speaker A:If you're one of his supporters, you can.
Speaker A:You can say that I'm wrong, you can say whatever you'd like.
Speaker A:But in the end, this is the truth.
Speaker A:Donald Trump is an unpopular president less than 100 days into his presidency.
Speaker A:Constitution, of course, in the 22nd Amendment does not allow for a president to run or to be elected to a third term.
Speaker A:Can he run?
Speaker A:Yeah, he can run for office.
Speaker A:He can run for a third term.
Speaker A:He can run for fourth or fifth term.
Speaker A:I mean, as long as his body holds out.
Speaker A:But he can't be elected.
Speaker A:He can't be sworn in for a third time and be president again.
Speaker A:There are some potential paths to him becoming the president.
Speaker A:He could potentially be elected as the vice president, and then whoever that president is could step aside almost immediately and be able to allow Donald Trump to ascend to the presidency for another term.
Speaker A:He could be the speaker of the House, and both the president and vice president could step aside, and then he could potentially become president by being sworn in and ascending to the presidency.
Speaker A:There's really nothing that any of us can do to stop him from running for a third term.
Speaker A:The Grim Reaper might maybe, but it really is what it is.
Speaker A:I cannot imagine a scenario where Donald Trump, knowing that he can't be sworn in as the president based on an election, would really want to become the president again like he's an old man.
Speaker A:He's going to be 82 years old.
Speaker A:Why not just let it go and retire?
Speaker A:But I think I know the answer to that.
Speaker A:And it's his vanity, it is his desire to be recognized.
Speaker A:And that's why he recognizes Putin and Kim Jong Un as being such strong men, because they never have to relinquish their power.
Speaker A:Putin can continue just to kill off everyone that opposes him in an election or sentence them to life in prison in, you know, northern Siberia.
Speaker A:But we have due process here in the United States.
Speaker A:That sort of prevents Donald Trump from being able to do that to people.
Speaker A:And I know that right now things are bleak when it comes to these deportations.
Speaker A:The fact that we are.
Speaker A:We are seeing American citizens being deported, we are seeing people that have not committed crimes being deported, people that have organized protests are being deported.
Speaker A:They're being deported.
Speaker A:It's such an odd world that we live in.
Speaker A:And as another distraction, Donald Trump has now in the process, and he says at his own cost, that he is going to have Installed on the White House ground, both on the north and South Lawn.
Speaker A:Two beautiful flagpoles, 100ft tall.
Speaker A:Just to give you some perspective on that, the national monument is 550ft tall, give or take.
Speaker A:So they won't be the tallest things in Washington D.C.
Speaker A:but you'll certainly be able to see them from almost anywhere.
Speaker A:It's, you know, the White House already has a flagpole on.
Speaker A:It stands about 70ft.
Speaker A:Tie on top of the, I mean from, from the height, from the height.
Speaker A:It's about 70ft and it's on top of the White House and it has a very large American flag.
Speaker A:Is there some fear in my mind that potentially Donald Trump wants flagpoles on the north and south lawn of the White House so that he has access to them?
Speaker A:He does do a lot crazy, wicked stuff with his hands and body against flags.
Speaker A:It's a weird, it's a weird kink.
Speaker A:Not here to kink shame him, but it is odd.
Speaker A:So just, you know, be aware.
Speaker A:Also this week saw that Dr.
Speaker A:Oz, who by the way, Dr.
Speaker A:Oz, is now the head of Medicare and Medicaid services.
Speaker A:A tv.
Speaker A:If a TV personality can be president United States, then a TV personality can definitely be the head of Medicare and Medicaid services.
Speaker A:Much to the demise of the actual programs and administrative state.
Speaker A:Dr.
Speaker A:Oz is now the head of Medicare and Medicaid services.
Speaker A:And as his first act has somehow, and I don't know if this act now requires the act of Congress, but has somehow increased by 5 point something percent in payouts to providers.
Speaker A:Now first, that sounds like that's a great thing because providers are going to be paid more for the services that they do.
Speaker A:I am not against that.
Speaker A:I absolutely think that for some of the services that doctors provide, whether it's Medicare Part A in hospitals or Medicare Part B, some of the services that are provided, or even demerg Medicare Part D, which is mostly your durable medical equipment.
Speaker A:I'm not against the idea that providers should be paid better for the services that they provide.
Speaker A:Doctors, Absolutely.
Speaker A:Nurses, things like that.
Speaker A:Those services I think are invaluable and should be recognized as such even under the, under the single payer system that we have with Medicaid included.
Speaker A:But that's, that's not what this 5% plus or minus increase is going to.
Speaker A:This increase is going to the administrative costs of Medicare and Medicaid and that only benefits the insurance companies that are currently under contract as the administrators for Medicare and Medicaid services.
Speaker A:I worked for a company here in South Carolina for 15 years.
Speaker A:That was the administrator for Medicare and Medicaid here in South Carolina as well as then it did expand into a couple other states, South Carolina, North Carolina, Tennessee.
Speaker A:So the administrative costs, the administrators are going to be paid an additional 5%.
Speaker A:These people, these, these companies are already making billions on the administrative cost.
Speaker A:Now, that includes phone services for providers and patients or, you know, Medicare patients.
Speaker A:So, but the actual cost of administrating these has not gone up.
Speaker A:Technology has gotten better.
Speaker A:So the actual administrative cost, which has been recognized throughout the last 10 years, as far as Medicare is concerned, the administrative cost of Medicare has gone down thanks to technology, computer systems, the availability of networks to move information back and forth particular to patients.
Speaker A:The administrative cost has gone down, but we're going to have an increase of 5% to the administrators that handle those Medicare contracts, those Medicaid contracts, 5% increase.
Speaker A:The insurance companies are the ones that are the administrators of Medicare and Medicaid and they do it at what is usually the lowest bid.
Speaker A:So where Elon Musk and Doge and his Doge warriors are supposed to be fighting to prevent fraud and manipulation of the system to save taxpayers monies, we've seen now an increase in the amount of money cost to transport Donald Trump back and forth from his White House to his Florida house and other other clubs every weekend so that he can play golf.
Speaker A:The cost of that goes up because it can.
Speaker A:Donald Trump owns those resorts and he gets to charge for all that have to be in his presence when he is on weekend vacations.
Speaker A:I guess we're about to hit the hundredth day and, and by the time this episode airs, we, we, we will, I think May 30th, April 31st.
Speaker A:April.
Speaker A:That's funny.
Speaker A:April 30th is, is his 100th day.
Speaker A:And in that 100 days he will have taken pretty much close to a quarter or a third of his time in office will have been spent on his own, on his own golf resorts playing golf.
Speaker A:That's what our president has been doing.
Speaker A:That's what he wants to do.
Speaker A:Why doesn't he just retire?
Speaker A:Anyway, that is going to wrap it up for this episode of the All About Nothing podcast.
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Speaker A:That is episode number 252.
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